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The Burnout Collective
Chik’n soup for the burnt out soul
Hey, everyone! We’re back. And it’s just the two of us this week which we haven’t done in a while. We decided to talk about all things cozy, comfy, and coping—and we all know Rebecca is all about the warm and fuzzies.
Jamie starts by talking about her visit to Super Nintendo World over the weekend and how magical it was to see her childhood come to life. Then, we dive in to our go-to comforts.
From our favorite nostalgic TV shows and movies like “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” to our top comfort foods like mac and cheese, PB&Js, and even the classic childhood favorite, Captain Crunch. We also talk about our favorite cozy video games like Stardew Valley and Animal Crossing and own up to our undying love for true crime documentaries. (Why are stories about murder so oddly comforting? We get into the psychology of that, too.)
It’s a laid-back, feel-good episode that feels like hanging out with your slightly unhinged, but always funny older sisters. So, grab your favorite comfort snack (and throw blanket) and settle in.
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The Burnout Collective Podcast is hosted by Jamie Young and Rebecca McCracken. We’ve had every ounce of inspiration sucked out by years of startups and hustle culture, and we’re trying to reclaim our creativity. Join us and our guests as we explore how to restart and reenergize our brains. Every Thursday at 5pm PT, we stream live on twitch.tv/TheBurnoutCollective.
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I was just trying to connect with all the other Lord of the Ring people. You mean me, you're trying to connect with me. Not gonna fucking do that anymore. I am Jamie. And I'm Rebecca. Welcome to the Burnout Collective. hello. What's up everybody? Honestly, welcome back. hi Rebecca, how are you? Hi, Jamie. I'm so good. I'm so glad we could be here, Just the two of us. No, it's been so long since it's been just the two of us. We've had some actually, you're right. It has been amazing. Amazing guests. Yes. Thank you again to Rachel, for coming on Yeah, last week to give us the rundown about unions and why they're important. I definitely learned a lot. I think that was the episode that I learned the most because I did not really know much at all about unions. No, I didn't either. And again, like all the protections. That they provide is just, I can see why people don't like them. And by people I mean like higher ups, not actual people. Right. By people you mean? Yeah. Billionaires.. oh, hey, I see that you subscribed by the way. oh, thank you. You subscribed to our podcast. Yeah. And, that's so cool. Yep. Four month, four month supporter, gotta support my girls. Thank you so much for supporting us. And they're 35% off. Oh yeah. this month. Yeah. So gift subs right now are like up to 35% off. So if you're going to subscribe or you would like to gift someone else a subscription, now is the time. Maybe do some swap, sees somebody gifts, you gift them. So get your percentage off. But they're pretty affordable right now. so appreciate it. we appreciate you being here and listening. Period. Subscribing always helps us continue to do this and continue to, find more and more guests to bring to you the people. Yep. Also just to FYI, if you are interested in a guest or if you have a topic, suggestion, feel free to email us podcast@burnoutcollective.com. Oh, so I went to, super Nintendo World at Universal Studios Hollywood, California Best Weekend. Oh fun. It was really, really cool. Like, you even got to, like, you get these like power bracelets and play these mini games. And then it's also like a little competition between,'cause the bands are like per character. So like, I had Yoshi, the boyfriend had Mario, and then, there's tons of other ones. And so it's a competition to see which character gets the most points, like that day or I think overall time too, which, like the people at the top of that list are literally, I live it Virgins Universal, oh, I live at Universal Studios. But you could actually punch the like, power up blocks for Mario and it would be like dinging and give you coins and I don't know, like the feedback was like perfect. And just like the child in me that grew up on playing, Nintendo and Mario games, was so very pleased and so very happy. and you got to see Princess Peach in real life. I did. I did. I didn't get my picture taken because I was like, do I wanna stand in line with all of those like five-year-old girls or should I just see her from afar and be like, Hey bitch, remember me? I'm not like a character meter. I feel like that kind of just, I don't know if it gives me anxiety, but I think I'm just it's not my priority, That should have been like your Christmas card though. I, if it was mine, that's what I would've sent out. Just me and Peach. Oh, and then they had the, like Mario Kart ride, so they had VR headsets. that was really dope. that was really cool to see. I'm excited. Do you get sit on rides? I don't. I like, I don't, I won't ever do the rides that they always have in like, for like the kids, the ones that like, spin around. Yeah. And you fly out, I'm not gonna do those, but like, well, no, no, no, no. I used to do like anytime I went to Disney, like I would always do like Tower of Terror, so that's fun. I don't know. I do think, as I get older, I feel like I have a stomach less and less for rides. But like, this was not one, I think it was also made for like, small kids too. So it was okay. I, it's the spinning or anything that's like virtual. Do you get motion sickness really easily. Okay. That's how my dad is. Yeah. And I'm gone. Yeah. I don't know. I can, some games now make get me like motion sick. there are some games I used to be like, I used to be able to play borderlands. No problem. But like now, for some reason when I play that game in particular, it makes me emotion sick after a little bit. Sun's in the forest, that's when I have to close my eyes on like when we're on the golf cart, oh yeah, the golf cart and swims in the forest does that to me too, for sure. But overall, I don't know. I'll have to go back to Disney to see if I can still do tower after. But it's just you gotta test it. The last time I was at Disneyland, I was pregnant. And so it was mostly just standing in lines, walking through farts. And then I couldn't go on any of the rides except the like Pirates of the Caribbean. Like I couldn't do anything else. Like, you know, the sitting rides, I couldn't do anything that spin or like no roller coaster. So I went to the tiki room like three times. I would love to go to Mario Land though. Yeah, no, it was, it's so cool. And like I was also thinking it's, it's definitely smaller. So I think it's actually really good for smaller kids. Like instead of taking them to like the entirety of Disney or the entirety of Universal, like I think it's the perfect size.'cause there's still a lot to do and I think a kid could still get overwhelmed in there. But like my favorite part of Disneyland is 10, 10 30 at night when you're standing in line waiting for the bus to go home and you watch a 3-year-old absolutely meltdown, dissolve, just fall asleep or meltdown and scream. No, there's no coming back. It is just pure overload. Shrieking in a princess crown with a little like cup and wand and just absolutely lost their shit. And their parents are panicking. It's my favorite. That's my favorite Disney ride. And they're like, why did we have children? Yes. My nephew's gonna go for the first time to Disney next month. oh, that'll be fun. So I'm not going but I'm excited for him. I think he's just gonna wanna stay in like cars land the whole time basically. Oh yeah. But you gotta tell'em the Ariel's out there somewhere, somewhere Ariel exists. Oh yeah, that right. And Ariels. I'm glad you had a good time. Yeah, but it was good. Oh my God, that'll be so much fun. But just like, I don't know, like experiencing that after having grown up with all that was just like, I don't know, it was just like a cool little like hug that like from, I don't know, like maybe I'm just like honoring, you know, tiny tot Jamie. which I think I do in so many ways, but just healing the inner child, if you will. Aw. So it was really nice. That was the first video game I learned to play and my uncles had a Nintendo and yeah, when they were out of the house, I would steal it and try to play it and I taught myself to play and so yeah. I love Super Nintendo. My grandma, my dad's mom had Nintendo and then Super Nintendo. Ooh. And we had a Super Nintendo, so that's mainly what I played because that was like mainly all we had growing up. But like, um, dude, I remember playing like Dokey Kong country with my grandma. She was so into it. She was like pretty good. It was just like, it wasn't like she got it for her grandkids. Like she got it because it was something she was interested in. Hell yeah. I think that's so cool. Just being retired and playing video games. Yeah. God, it'd be so much fun living the dream. We did not have a video game console, but my parents got a home computer and one like, yeah, obviously super strict upbringing, but one of the games we had, it was called Creatures two, which was basically video game eugenics, like you bred these little creatures and made them mate, and they had specific traits. It was literally kid eugenics. And I thought I had made that up in my head. You know, like when you think you remember something and you're like, no, that's not it is 100% that's the game. And I just cannot believe they let us play that. I feel like I've seen that. It looked like gizmo and Gremlin, like that's what they looked like. It looked like a really cute one and then a really gross one was all diseased and icky. So what are we talking about today, Jamie? I'm so glad you asked Rebecca. No, this is a perfect segue because, uh, we decided that we wanted to talk about, different things that bring us comfort that we may use as coping mechanisms. but just different comfort things, comfort food, comfort shows. cozy yeah, cozy. The co like cozy things like cozy. We're wearing cozy sweaters. Cozy sweaters, Things that just make you feel cozy. Things that are comforting to you. Will you hold your cup like this? You go Yeah. And just get like a little cozy. But it's like you have a hot co out and Yes. And you have to put your sleeves over your fingers and just go put your little, put your thumbs or your thumb hole. Yes. And your sweater. Just be cozy cozy and small with your, yeah. Big sweater and your blanket, things that make us feel like, taken care of and secure and safe, like mm-hmm. I am, I know, I wanna say I'm a weirdo, but I know there are a lot of people like me, but I have to watch and or listen to, like shows about murder and like crime or podcasts about murder and crime that like comforts me. That's my go-to. And I think it's just because it's like I have some sort of control in that. Like I'm choosing to watch this and like most of the time it's like this story is already played out and it'll have a conclusion like at an end sha and Freida. Sha and Freida. What is that again? taking pleasure in someone else's pain. Yeah. I mean, it's not that I'm not taking pleasure in somebody else's pain, it's not like that, but it's like I don't have to think about all the shit going on in my life. Mm-hmm. For a moment. I can instead focus on the shit that happened to somebody else. That is much worse. My kitchen may be messy, but someone isn't wearing my skin, so. Exactly. Buffy the Vampire Slayer is like Oh yeah. Shows same buffy's. Very comforting. And it's not exactly, I mean, I guess it is still murder. yeah. And also but also like pulls in like fantasy, you know what I mean? Mm-hmm. Because I was thinking about like books. Movies too. Lord of the Rings is definitely a comfort. Both the books and the movies for me. I'm sorry there a lot of people. Oh, but not for Rebecca. Oh, that's so weird. But you loved Lord of the Rings. Have you seen the theory that's going around that Fredo doesn't know the Elf's name? What the fuck is this? What's the el the Yeah, Legos because when they're all's around for a decade, Rebecca. Okay, well I finally caught up to it and I didn't know that. And I find that fascinating. It's hilarious, but apparently if there's existing discourse, I will continue. No, it is fascinating. I love it. That's great. I was just trying to connect with all the other Lord of the Ring people. You mean me, you're trying to connect with me. Not gonna fucking do that anymore. Do you have comfort books? Stiff by Mary Roach, and it's an entire book on what happens to the human body when you die, and how the human body is used post death. and we're not talking like just decomposition we're talking about. how body bodies are used in test crashes or, just a whole bunch of different things. And it's, I guess it's the similar vein as the podcast. It's just something I, and I feel dumb, but do they use real bodies in test crashes? I just assumed that they would have to like. They're like, all right, we gotta, we got a fresh one. And then what do, like the dealer, not dealership. Yeah. Dealerships. Do the car, companies like, like bid, bid on the bodies. But it has to be like quick, you know, so when you leave your body to science, that's what that means. I guess like, I only ever picture it like in a medical sense, you know? Mm-hmm. Like here, now you have this cadaver to test this on, or like to do this or to see if this surgery can be done on a human body and whatnot. Mm-hmm. Oh no. They cut you up in little pieces and stuff a bunch of times. They use different parts, go different places. Yeah. sometimes these whole body, but I mean, I even get that. I just, it's always test crash dummies. I didn't know there were test crash cadavers. One of the chapters, and I, this is my, like my most comforting chapter, one of the chapters talks about alternatives to cremation and burial. And one of'em is. Composting, which you and I have talked about before, like human composting. But the other one is, it's in like Norway or Denmark or Sweden, one of those places where they, they freeze dry your body, right? And so, you know, when it's freeze dried, your body's quickly cooled down, there's no moisture. But then you're on this, this plate that vibrates and it breaks down the body into like really tiny pieces. And then you can use those pieces to like add to compost, to add to plants. But it's just fascinating the options there are. Oh, also, huh? I was like checking to see what type of sponsorship, opportunities there were for us. And I didn't know, I, how did you call Fresh? I didn't know. I actually signed up for one and uh, cool. So if you're interested in HelloFresh, believe you. No. Give them$30. Give us$30. Well that's, they, it's a sponsorship, Rebecca. Like we, we get I know, but yeah. Alright, give them$30 and then give us$30 please. I didn't know we were doing HelloFresh. I'm sorry. I didn't have my ad voice on. I didn't have my, I didn't, I didn't either. I was looking into it and apparently. I looked into it a little too deeply, but yeah. Oh, well. I love their insert. Easy to make family friendly meal here for weeknights and you really enjoy their vegetarian option. Breakfast in the mornings as a quick grab and go. I don't know if they have any vegan options for listeners, subscribe and use our code. HelloFresh, P-O-G-H-F 1 5 2 1 4 6. Wow. Wow. Super easy to remember and receive. Record this. No, I'm gonna have you record this like in a legitimate ad and put it in the episode. 10 Free Meals and a free Breakfast For Life. For Life. Wait. Free Breakfast for Life, or 10 free Meals with a Free Breakfast for Life. Oh, one breakfast item and per box. Okay. We're never gonna, we're never gonna get sponsor. This is great. if you enjoy HelloFresh. Just talking about like dead bodies. And then it's hello, fresh. All right. Not, this is not good for it. I also didn't realize like our cozy episode would turn into just, you know, but it is comforting though. You have a huge point though. It's comforting because you know what's gonna happen and the answer is death and yeah, it's something that is out of control, but you know that's gonna happen. So you are in kind said, it's not happening to me, you said, and it's not happening to you. It's like I, I know that I'm, if I'm gonna watch this documentary about Yes. Jane Doe getting murdered. Mm-hmm. I know that Jane doe's gonna get murdered. I'm not gonna get murdered. Right. It's fine. No, and the worst thing that has happened to someone is not happening to you. Like there's, it's like almost a primal comfort law and order, specifically law and order special victims unit. To this day, it's still going. Do you know that? Do you know it's still going? Yes, I do. They're on like, yes, do like 22. Ice teas. One liners are like, I'll watch YouTube compilations of him just saying weird ass shit. I wanna watch a YouTube com. Compilation of like all the shit that say Yeah, that call breakfast. Yeah. At the beginning they're like dumb puns at the beginning when they find a body or whatever, or the victim and they're like, I know. I just, I love, it's good. The show, I like the Dick Van Dyke show too. I, my mom used to watch it, like I would have lunch and my mom would be watching it in the other room when I was little and it would be before I went down for like a nap. And so there's always like this sleepy. Peanut butter and jelly kind of like feeling when I watch it, just like I have my little sandwich and I'm ready for a nap, and it just kind of is like that instantly feeling. I love that. You know, like when you're little after your lunch and you're just all sticky and warm and just, I don't know, you sit with your mom for a minute and then she's like, all right, it's time for bed. And I don't know. That's what I get when I watch that show. Also, Dick Van Dyke he is so tall and so fine, but also sleepy, cozy that likes sleepy peanut butter and jelly. That reminds me of like game shows. Yes. Because either I would be home sick or it was like before I was going to school, or when I went to like kindergarten for like half day, and I would come home and it would be before my nap or after my nap, I don't know which, and my mom would be down in the basement where our TV was and she would be folding laundry always. And I would go down there and be watching like prices. Right. The prices right was so fun. I don't remember what other ones were on back then. Sometimes though. That's the only time, and that's the only time in her life she would watch soap operas. Other than that, like that's not something she was really into, but she would. Mm-hmm. Like when we were like really little. She would watch some, my grandma used to watch them. She would tape them. She had like her tape set up and God had her soaps. My, my mom's grandma, so like my great grandma, she lived with them for a while when my mom was like a teenager, I think like preteen. And she was obsessed with wrestling and so she would just always be watching wrestling. Is this, this isn't the same one with the Nintendo? No, this is a different, so you had two cool grandmas. Well, this was a great grandma. Oh, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't know her, but, yeah, I actually never met her. She died before I was born, but um, that's still two very cool grandmas. But my mom always talks about like how insane it was because she was this very like, Christian like church going, like old lady and then she would watch wrestling and I just imagine her like, you know, like cussing and screaming at the tv. So funny. Yeah. I love that. I love it. She would've loved the rock. Oh God no. I love, yeah, I love that. And then what were some others, like, were there any movies that you used to watch when you were little and that you wa you watch now? Just like when you're just like, I can't fucking deal. And you just put it in and kind of zone out. I think a lot of'em more so stem from when I was like a teenager rather than when I was little that are comforts. Mm-hmm. However, beauty and the Beast always like mm-hmm I don't care what anyone says about the live action that came out. but I literally like bled when the singing started, when I went to see the Live Action Beauty and the Beast in theaters.'cause Beauty and the Beast was like my thing when I was a kid So low like, I mean most Disney movies, but Beauty and the Beast for sure. Also, and this is when I have not seen in a while, but it keeps coming up for me so I feel like I need to watch it. You remember Fern Gully? I need to watch Fern Gully. Okay. This is a quick quiz to determine what kind of person are you. Were you disappointed at how he looked when the beast turned back into a human? Oh, 1000%. Yeah. No, thank you. That is the correct answer. Yeah. nobody in their right mind is attracted to like What his name did. We even have a name. The beast. His name is the beast. Yeah. His name's the beast. He should be a beast. Yeah, I saw like someone had done like a revamp of him and he had a beard and like it looked like Yeah. How the fuck as a person, I was like, that's who it should have been. He awar clearly. So much disappointment. His name was Adam. It Adam, the fuck was that like Clear? Was that like something they made clear in the movie or like they never called him Adam, they called him the beat, sir. Your highness. I don't, did they ever, I don't think they ever called him Adam. Whatever. Anyway, you're magnificent fluffiness. Do you like beard? All like Oh yes, yes. Beard and everything. Oh my God, he's so cute. I look stupid. Oh yeah. No, I do love that one. Not at all in the movie. Okay. Yeah, it must, okay, good. Then I'm, I didn't think I missed it in the, in the Disney lore in the books. I really need to watch Fern Gly. We should do like a Fern Gly watch party and Discord. that'd be awesome. I'm afraid we're going to be disappointed, but I'm in, I don't know. I don't know. I kind of feel like it's gonna hold up. Yeah. What were some other shows? I don't know. Like I think it was just, yeah, it was Dickon Dyke show. the Price Is Right and Yeah, I still watch those as adults. Buffy. Oh, sailor Sailor Moon. When I was a Taylor for sure. That was good one. It's a teenager. Really? Mine was kids in the hall. My mom would be working outta the house when I would come home from high school. And so she would be working and I would watch, all the reruns of Kids in the hall and Saturday Night Live while she was out. Nice. We didn't have cable, so what else did I watch? Oh, just also watch, like the family show.'cause I didn't have cable, so I only got to watch what was on tv. So like mm-hmm. I never have gone back to watch these, but there's still something about them. So actually that's a lie. I literally just watched a couple episodes of Saved by the Bell over the weekend. oh. I never watched it. It was very French. but saved by the Bell Boy Meets World Family Matters step by step. Like all those, I hated Boy Meets World. Oh, I liked Boy Meet Cory. He was whiny fuck. And he was like, Topanga, you have to stay and don't go to Stanford. Stay here with like, he ruined a woman's fucking life. And then when she cut her hair, he was like, Ew, I don't, he's fucking crazy. God, what is it with the, these shows? He's she was gorgeous. And this turd of a child, isn that what happened in Felicity too, She like cut her hair and then the guy was like, boy, what a fucking uggo you are. And then the audience would laugh and it's oh my God. But no, like the whole show, they made this gorgeous girl feel like shit. And yeah, he was so far below her. It's not even funny. That's how I feel about Dawson from Dawson Creek., I tend to like wanna watch, oh, another one. I guess it's from when I did finally have some cable, have cable access to cable, so I must have been a little bit older, but Degrassi, oh, I never watched that. Degrassi is like really good. Like I remember well no,'cause old Degrassi, like eighties Degrassi, that was on regular tv. I remember that was the first I'd ever seen. Ooh, the Adams family movies. Those ones. Yeah. With the, like, the ones from like the late nineties, I think. Mm-hmm. Those are my, I love, like, when I'm sick, I just love watching them. I'm trying to think of just those like nineties movies that like, I don't know, what was it, like Three Ninjas? There's Three Ninjas. There was Ninjas. I don't know. it was like Karate Kid, but oh, for a younger audience and not as good. and then we had stuff like, was the Dolphin one with Elijah Wood? Flip Flipper, right? Flip Yeah. Flipper. Hey, why? Oh no, that was, that was, no, it was Free Will Free Willy. You're right. Free Will. Yeah. I was like, wait, which one was Flipper? There was a, I watched Flipper reruns. I didn't know there was a movie of it. Three Ninjas, the Surf Ninjas. I've never heard of Surf Ninjas, but maybe Do Good Ass, maybe it was a scene. And I mean more Disney, but I loved Lion King. And Aladdin. I loved Aladdin. are there any like books or book series that Yeah, I love reading the, I love the Little House on the Perry series. I've read through that multiple times. I don't think I read that, but my mom used to like, have me watch that with her all the time. Like I feel like I watched a lot of it, but I never read any of the books. Yeah, no. Every like summer or so, I'll just go through'em and read'em. And she really didn't have Elijah Woods. Which one had Elijah Woods? Wait, really? Free Willie. Oh, free Willie was that other kid. Wait, what? See, you know what we have Google? How about I'm just look this up right now. Okay. You were right. There was a Flipper movie, 1996 and it was Elijah Wood. Oh, okay. So you were right. I was right. Thank you. Oh, Homeward V Dude. No, Homeward vow. That is emotional cutting for children. I, that movie breaks me every time It has to be mentioned when shadow comes limping up the hill and that dumb boy is like shadow and I'm just that dumb boy. And Emily, I just looked over and EM'S also just weeping and it's just like, why did we every time and you know what's gonna happen, you know it's gonna be fine story also. Fuck that movie. Emotional cutting for children with the horse. I Can't with the Horse Labyrinth. What else? Oh yeah, that is a comforting one. I think like when I need comfort besides, like I said, like it's typically I'm like, I need to watch like a murder documentary. I think I tend more to go toward, I. coming of age teenage shows. So back to like my teenage years maybe. Because were you like a full house all kind of person? I did watch Full House, but I'm talking like, I would go back and rewatch, like I've rewatched, Buffy a ton, I've rewatched Veronica Mars a lot. yeah. And those are like comfort to me and those, but those are actually shows that I didn't even watch when I was a teenager. I didn't actually start watching this until I was like early twenties. Same. I wasn't allowed to watch Buffy at home, so I had to watch that at college. Like I missed out on all of these. I wasn't allowed to watch any of'em. And it was college that I finally saw everything that I wanted to see. I liked, I like stupid boy movies, like stupid teenage boy movies, like Super Troopers and White Chicks, and I just love like falling asleep to them tricks. Super troopers. They're so stupid. I don't know. do you like, like Jim Carrey movies? No. Like good. No, I can't do that. Everyone loves those and I just can't. I guess I, him and Adam Sandler, I just, yeah, I couldn't really get into Adam Sandler, however, I did like 51st dates with Adam Sandler and Drew Barrymore. Drew Barrymore. Yeah. I don't know why, because I also don't really like rom-coms. I liked that one. no. But never Been Kissed was a really, like, that's also a fun one to just have on and fall asleep too. She's just so cute. Trying to think like movies I used to, I would know I'd always fall asleep to like law order. That is really good though. Um, and also games, like cozy games, like obviously Stardew we both love Star du Hello Kitty. I Adventure. Are you still playing that? I did not get into it, dude. Honestly, I barely played it. oh, I'm sad for you. I know, I'm sad for me too. what was the other one? what was it? I forgot the name of it. Did you? The game. Oh, are you the animal crossing? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Animal Crossing. Basically like any little like farming sim where we can just do chores. Mindlessly, Chopped down trees and break rocks. And wear? Wear the skin of the fallen, like suns of the forest. Another cozy little game. I, that actually is a cozy game to me, but it's because of like the memory that it holds. Because the first time we sleep, you can crack bone chairs. The first time we played the first game, it was like me and all my little like group of friends. We all played it. And we don't ever all get together anymore. And we're not all playing games like we saw talk and hang out, but not as much. And it was the Yeah. Thumb, it was the surprise. It was when I had hives that, uh, that Christmas. Mm-hmm. And we were all on Christmas break and so we all just played like a shit ton of the forest and we like take care of each other too. We're like, oh, do you need water? Let me boil you some water. You know what I mean? we're like, I'll go chew some fish. Okay. I think here I made you this armor. I made you this face mask with real skin. yeah. No, you do. You guys do. I was like, and you were like, look here, just take the raccoon head and make it in a puppet. I was like, I do feel better. Thank you. So what I'm hearing is we need to play more sons of the forest. Oh, I think so. I think so Party animals is also oh yeah. I mean, you're, you're by proxy beating the shit outta something. Yeah. It's very cathartic and cute little, there's nothing than going, the Otter has a gun. that's, it just makes me on the otter. Yeah. that one has definitely been just like relaxing. And you zone out. I wanna get into, I own it. What is it? Fields of mysteria, my mystery. Moonstone Island is another really good one. Oh, play the shit outta that too. Moonstone Island was really great. Love that one. all I'm thinking is like adding all of these into show notes later. Fasm phobia. You guys play a shit ton of fasm phobia. Yeah, I guess that's another one that's just like cozy for that friend group because we have 700 hours in it and we literally have it down to a science, so we play it, but we also just like, because we have it down to a science, like we can do it blindfolded and like not looking. Trash Goblin. Trash goblin. Yeah. Did you stick with that? I didn't get that. Yeah. Oh, I played it for hours. Oh, great. And you can like, so I should get it. Connect trash. Oh yeah. Connect trash to other trash to make better trash. I love this. And you can, you can level up your sponge and your filth. Chisel. It's just, I'm sure it's not called a filth. Chisel, okay. But it is. And also it's just so stupid'cause you're sitting there cleaning trash. I know. It's the best game. And then you sell your trash and you can decorate your room with like trash. You found. I don't know. it's. Stupidly comforting. I wonder what it means. if I am wanting to rewatch a show for kind of like comfort or like coziness, that's from my childhood versus that's from when I was a teenager or like early twenties or something like that. Alright, well let's compare from your childhood Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin. So all fairytales, all leading up to a happy ending and everything is okay in the end versus the shows from your childhood where Buffy is there where danger is ever present, always lurking and she somehow manages to escape it or sometimes gets hurt and she is able to conquer it. But there's always more, lots of drama. Yeah. and ups and downs. There's not even really a happy ending. It's just dealing with shit and the little happiness in between. That's true. There's, that's a question I think you and your therapist should. You're like, I don't know, I think you need to talk about this with your therapist. Well that's, I mean, it's a good question though. what does it say about you? Yeah. When it's this versus this. Yeah, it's still like hope and overcoming murder. Like it's still usually just murder though. So yeah, it's still six feet under is good one. Holy fuck. That's such a good show. Yeah. Oh my God. sometimes if I like, you know, like where you have to cry and you can't or you're just like so frustrated. I, I'll go on YouTube and I'll watch the end of the season finale of six feet under where she's driving away. Hey, we don't need to spoil people, you know? Oh, fuck you. If you haven't seen it. It's been 30 years now. Go fuck yourself pushing daisies. Okay, Nate dies. Nate dies. There you go. I actually, pushing daisies is also great. I never saw pushing daisies, but I was always told to see it. it's so cute. So cute with Lee Pace. And then, the little baker. What was the Grim Reaper one? dead Like me. Dead Like Me. That was another great one. Dead Like me was really good. I watched that A over and over. I've watched that a lot. Um, nice. What else was there? Trying to think. Yeah, you're right. It is all deaf. What about comfort food? We haven't talked about food. There is a very specific. Wafer cookie. It is Sonya. A very thin wafer, like a very thin wafer that has been rolled while it's still warm. And so it's so light and so delicate and very crispy and it just like shatters in your mouth. And it's sugary too. So it's just like crispy, crunchy, sugary, and it's the best texture ever. And I eat those by the pack when I'm sad. Same thing with Oreos. Just like the crunchy and the creamy. And the crispy and the, yeah, the crispy, crunchy peanut buttery. That's just, I, it's gotta hit the sweet and the crunchy and the texture. if I need to feel better. That was the most autistic thing I've ever said. I just realized I don't say the most. Okay, that's true. Like mac and cheese. Like pasta or like mac and cheese specifically? Yeah. Potato or mashed potato. I literally, Ordered mashed potato and like some vegetables or something too. But I ordered, I was like craving mashed potatoes, so I ordered mashed potatoes from a restaurant this week because I was like, sounds so good. It was so good. Yes. Oh, I love that. Yeah. Very comforting. Fresh bagels. Like not toasted, just like warm and like fresh and warm. And then you just dip in the cream. Cheese. Cheese, actually, period. I love a good salt cause they used to steal those for 25 cents per bagel. When I was in middle school at our school, they would bring in bags and bags of fresh bagels and it was always, salt or cinnamon raisin. And not a lot of places have salt bagels to this day. I do you have, you had like salt, sea salt and rosemary? Or is it just plain salt? Just plain salt. Was it? That's so good. I love salt bagels. I'm all about it. I'm all about it. Yeah. Fresh bagels, fresh bread, carbs, Cher, mac and cheese specifically. Is it? That one's so good. Cher The one that we like? Oh, the one? what's the one? The black box. Box? Yeah. With the pen. That's features. Oh, okay. Yeah. Features. Oh, pizza. Pizza Hut. Any like Pizza Hut? Just pizza dude. Pizza Hut. I'm sorry, but pizza. Just gimme a pizza. And that's comfort right there. Even if it's bad, it's still pizza. Like I love French bread pizza. Yeah, I love it. I have like really weird, like very specific things that I may have even talked about on this podcast, I'm sure I told you, but it's like stuff my mom would make me when I was like sick or if I was like, yeah, or if I was home like with cramps and couldn't go to school or something. wait, can I see if I remember it? Because I wanna show that I there's two things. I'm about to talk about a soup, but there is a sandwich. Okay. Okay. I'll let you do the sandwich. Okay, I wanna see if I remember it. Okay. Because I made a mental note to try it. It's fried bread, Swiss cheese mayonnaise. I added pickles in my head. I don't know if you had pickles. I'm pretty sure there were pickles. Is that it? There's not usually pickles, but I do add pickles'cause I love pickles. Okay, good. Okay. Did I leave something out? Romaine lettuce. Oh fuck, sorry, I forgot the romaine. Okay. But that one I have on my to eat list. You make it sound good. You told me that twice now when it sounds delicious. Oh yeah. Like it is, it's just it's so simple and stupid, but it's just like a comfort. That one is what my mom would always make me.'cause I would go back for Christmas, like every year when I like had moved outta the house and she would make that sandwich for me and cut it in half and put it in a little baggie and bring it to me at the airport because she'd be like, oh, you are always so hungry that you got off the plane. And like, so it was very sweet. but when I was like home sick when I was younger, it was lentil soup, but with boiled with ramen noodles, not the packet. You just put the noodles, throw away the package, put the noodles in there, and it would be lentil soup with ramen noodles and a banana smoothie. I don't know why, but like to this day, that's like very comforting and very, like my childhood, is it lentil soup from a can? Most times it would be like, okay, Progresso. Got it. Okay. But sometimes it would be like homemade. Yeah. I like the addition of ramen noodles. It's interesting. I think it's very good now I kind of want that and a sandwich. So hungry. I'm too, I'm really actually talking about it. Oh, cheddar cheese and so cheddar cheese. Apple sliced into thin slices, crunchy peanut butter and cheddar cheese to little cheddar cheese altogether. And you eat them all together like a bite? Yes. I fucking love peanut butter and cheese. I've done that. I've never done that. I do like apples and cheese and apples and peanut butter all the time. Mm-hmm. Butter. I also never get crunchy peanut butter. It's the, again, it's a texture thing. Yeah. And then you get that little tangy salt from the cheese and it's just perfect'cause it's just creamy and creamy with a peanut butter. Yeah. Oh my God, it's so good. That's my favorite. There's a salad Because I have one, there's a salad my mom would make.'cause we were all like vegetarian, so she'd make this giant ass salad for like holidays so that'cause we could have, we'd have sides, for holidays. But then she wanted us to have a little more, so she'd make a huge salad. And again, probably talked about this, but it was like spring mix slash like spinach and then red grapes cut in half mandarin oranges. Okay. and chow meine crunchy noodles with a raspberry vinegarette. Fucking chow Meine noodles are the best. Oh my God. Every time I go there's a salad bar with those. They're so good. Tell me, it wasn't a Midwestern salad. no. No mayo. It was, so that sounds, that sounds delicious. Yeah. What was yours? my grandma. My grandma takes Nestle Tollhouse cookie dough. And bakes it to within an inch of its life. They are dirt color brown. They are crunchy. There is not one speck of moisture left. And they crumble like nobody else. And I, for some reason fucking love them. She's always made them. And that's just how cookies are apparently in my head. And Aw. I just, they're terrible, but they're so good.'cause that's what I grew up with. But you know, objectively they're awful. Yeah my mom would probably be horrified that you were like, is there something that like your mom would make?'cause like my mom cooked like really great stuff, like all the time. I'm sure like she was always cooking meals for us, but it's just like the things that stuck out to me, I'm like a sandwich, canned soup and ramen and a salad. Like she would be like, wow, it's okay. Oscar Meyer cheese filled hotdog wrapped in crescent roll dough. Dude, I used to like, when I ate meat, those cheese filled hotdog were the jam. Yep, yep. They were so good. And also just like you're a little kid, get some tater tots and some steamed broccoli or peas that don't have butter or salt on them and that's like the perfect little comforting meal. Not that I would like ever get them anywhere because nobody ever had these hardly but once in a while. The smiley face fries. Yeah. I think you could just buy'em at the grocery store, I'm sure. But Yes. It's like they have like little fried potatoes with mashed potatoes inside and Yes, they're the best. They're so good. They're so good. Yeah. I love just like little kid and ppe, honestly. PB and J, the Uncrustables like little kid Food is my comfort food. Hands down. Yeah, I just, same cereal with even Captain Crunch. Oh yeah, that's another big one. Just cereal with milk, I think. I think I burnt myself out on Captain Crunch'cause I was going hard on Captain Crunch like this last month. Yeah. You, there was one day like you just, hi it and you were like Captain Garage, like you were excited to find that box. Yeah. So yeah, I just did that with Coco Krispies. I was so excited to see them and now I'm like, I don't ever wanna look at the boxes again. I like Fruity Pebbles. Fruity comes with, I can't do like chocolate cereal. What about music? Comfort music? Mine is like all nineties Alt rock. That's it. That's my comfort music. Mine is the Interstellar soundtrack. Oh, that's a great soundtrack. So I thought you were just gonna say show tunes Broadway Hips. I do. Well, no, I do love those. I do love those. ride the Cyclone has been a good one recently. Les Mis is one fan of the opera. Very one. So depressing, but so comforting. Oh. or like, you know, when they read or when they redo songs for trailers, like just like a normal rock song, but then they put it like in a huge orchestral mm-hmm. Version with Tiffany. Have you heard Lady Gaga do Heavy Metal? Did you hear her perform with Metallica? Yes. I just, it's like she was born for it. I just heard that like a month or so ago for the first time. And I'm like, why is she not always doing heavy metal? she was trained as a opera singer, so like she's got that. I mean, she can do anything. She's got the range for sure. Yeah. That's great okay, well Jamie, thanks for doing Cozy Day with me. Yeah, no, this is great. I love a good day. It's so much fun. I like her little cozy outfits, cozy sweaters. It's only gonna get cozier from here. Jamie, what are your plans for the rest of the week? I don't know. I don't have any plans. Me either. Love that for us. Okay. Long, goodbye. Um, thank you guys for being here. thanks for chatting as always. It's so great to hear from you and to talk to you. Hope you have a great rest of the week. And we hope we'll see you again next Thursday. No guests, on our schedule for the next couple episodes, but if that changes, we will absolutely let you know. yeah. 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