The Burnout Collective

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The Burnout Collective Season 1 Episode 4

In this episode of the Burnout Collective, we discuss a topic we have no business discussing: shopping. Or, rather, using shopping as a coping mechanism—which some like to call doom spending. We talk about buying unnecessary items when stressed or bored, like 6 different Muslin Comfort blankets (and this one time a car). We then chat about the struggle of managing finances to begin with, the science of social media advertising, and the impacts of ADHD on spending habits. Although we know this episode topic was more of the "do as we say, not as we do" type, we still acknowledge our shared desire to eliminate shame around money and end the cycle of guilt associated with spending...under our 6 expensive, cozy blankies.

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The Burnout Collective Podcast is hosted by Jamie Young and Rebecca McCracken. We’ve had every ounce of inspiration sucked out by years of startups and hustle culture, and we’re trying to reclaim our creativity. Join us and our guests as we explore how to restart and reenergize our brains. Every Thursday at 5pm PT, we stream live on twitch.tv/TheBurnoutCollective.

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Speaker 1:

I don't even know why we're like this is our show topic, because I feel like I don't have anything to say that's helpful. I'm Jamie.

Speaker 2:

And I'm Rebecca.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to the Burnout Collective. It's been a week. It's always been a week, I feel like I'm always going to start the show with. It's been a week.

Speaker 2:

It's never, not a week. At this point, I don't think.

Speaker 1:

No, we're just existing. We're doing our best. That's TM Doing our best.

Speaker 2:

Who's our unofficial official sponsor today?

Speaker 1:

This empty, uncrustable wrapper.

Speaker 2:

Excellent. I have of my wrist peanut butter crackers.

Speaker 1:

We're doing great I also have peanut butter, gotta get that protein.

Speaker 2:

So what are we talking about today, jamie?

Speaker 1:

so what we're gonna do? Are we gonna be those guys? What do you want to talk about today, rebecca?

Speaker 2:

we don't have script. We haven't thought about this all week.

Speaker 1:

We don't have a script. Let's be honest there is no script.

Speaker 2:

We're going to talk about doom spending.

Speaker 1:

Doom spending is when you and your best friend are both Tauruses and you enjoy the finer things in life. That's us. I was just thinking about like how hard this might be for us, because I feel like the episode's just going to be us being like, yeah, this is a thing and it happens you know what?

Speaker 2:

as soon as we're done, I'm going to go buy that too yeah yeah, I think it starts with just us sending text messages back and forth of the thing that we bought. I think our very first purchase that started this was the muslin linen blankets oh yeah, did you tell me about those, or did I did, okay, okay everyone I know has bought one and multiples.

Speaker 1:

They're so perfect and I'm a hot sleeper. Let's talk this. Let's start this podcast off with talking about how we're hot sleepers and it's so. It's just like perfect. So muslin comforter. So first thing we're going to talk about, you know, emotional spending and how that's an issue and that's something we use to cope, but everyone go buy a muslin comforter yes not sponsored they're no, but they're oversized, so you can wrap yourself entirely and cocoon yourself in like a twin size and feel small and cozy, they are big.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they are like extra large. I think I got a queen.

Speaker 2:

Softer with every wash, just wonderful. Yeah they have, but maybe we didn't need five of them.

Speaker 1:

I think I have. I actually think I only have two and then a throw. I did get a throw from them.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I forgot about the throw Shit.

Speaker 1:

That's six, I think. I have six Good thing. This isn't an intervention, yeah, but that's six.

Speaker 2:

I think I have six good thing this isn't an intervention, yeah, but that was. That was like the middle of the pandemic or like the beginning of the pandemic, where it was like that's all a blur.

Speaker 1:

It's all it's all a blur of just me going into debt. By the way, it's just that's what the blur is my slow descent into credit card debt from emotional spending.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and it's so cheesy and they're like money can't buy happiness, but it 100% buys dopamine. Yeah, so that's what the past five years have been is just purchasing dopamine.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, trying to find that thing. That's going to your life, my whole life, like I also always wanted to be a writer, so my whole life I was always like, oh my god, I need notebooks and I need cool pens. It's, yeah, the journal that's gonna do it, or like the, even like the monthly planner. I actually never really got super into planners, but I mean I have purchased them to try. I do have a fix your life journal workbook thing that I recently bought for like 80 dollars in just a desperate attempt to fix the chaos that was is my mental health, and it's still sitting on my kitchen table where I like unboxed it and then I set it there so buying a thing, and it's just the excitement of getting the thing, and then you get the thing, and then you put the thing down and forget about the thing yep, put it in a closet, shut the door yeah, and so you just have piles of shit that get dusty, or the best one is when you forgot that you bought it the first time, then you buy it again.

Speaker 1:

I've done that. Or you like go in your closet one day and you find some clothing like still with the tags on it, and you're like, oh, I forgot I bought this, and so you like put it in the forefront of your closet and maybe even rip the tags off it because you're like I'm gonna wear this now and then you don't.

Speaker 2:

No and honestly fuck social media so hard because ever since getting on that shit unfortunately I am advertised to so easily it's really and they really know like their demographic with me. They have me fucking nailed.

Speaker 1:

No same, same, I think. Sometimes I'll message you. I'll be like, hey, have you heard of this? And you'll be like, yeah, I got that Instagram ad too. Like goddammit, Goddammit.

Speaker 2:

Do you want the softest pants that are not really pants for 90? Yeah, I do, I do actually. I mean the softest pants. Makeup makeup is a bad one, and skincare those tiktok girlies with their glass skin. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard because it's I want that. It's. I have nothing going on in my life right now. Again, for the past four years we've stuck in the house, so we might as well work on that. Buy it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I have to have a conversation with my husband where he gets upset. But I'm not like a 1950s, you know know, asshole husband kind of way. Just did we really spend seven thousand dollars? That's the thing I truly hope that didn't happen it wasn't seven thousand but it was 1700 it was, oh, it was too much, it was too much. And then the bank. Oh, I don't know if your bank has this, but it'll show you the categories yeah it's like your yearly spending oh, amazon, yeah, beauty and skincare bills car.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's basically just like shopping, that's everything, and also totally just like ordering DoorDash.

Speaker 2:

Because you don't have the energy to get up and do anything. It comes to you, you feel better for a little bit and then you don't have any fucking money and then you're depressed again. So then you have to go buy something and then you're depressed because you don't have any money. And it's just like this horrible cycle of spending you're stuck in.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and back to the ADHD. First of all, it just it gives you that instant hit, right, that instant hit of like dopamine and you're like, oh yeah, like this is great, I feel so good. One thing I have been doing recently, which it doesn't always work, but sometimes it works- If you say you fill up your cart and then walk away.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to be so mad oh you do, don't you?

Speaker 1:

So online sometimes, if I'm like, but it's something that's fucking nuts, right, it's. Maybe it's tons of makeup and I don't really wear that much makeup, but I don't know or something ridiculous, like I like go on, you know, like a t-shirt site, and I'm like, oh, my God, I want all these t-shirts. Or I go through like an Etsy phase where I'm like filling up my Etsy cart so I've done that with Etsy and like Timu, where I'll just go crazy and like I'm usually just kind of like, you know, after work, trying to relax, and I'm like, oh, let's shop because like I had a shitty day, I had a shitty week, and I'll go through. I'll be like this is so cool, fuck, yeah, add to cart. Add to cart. And then I look at it and it's this is is like $1,200. And I'm like that's not feasible, that's not something that's going to happen. So I'll just leave it. And then I'll be like, if I'm still thinking about it, then I can come back and I can whittle it down when I'm sober.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's like, it's like edging, edging. I can't. I can't stand it. Either I get it or I don't get it, and it's. I can't be in that in-between waiting phase because then I'll just hyper fixate on, like when I can go get it and the thing that's made it really difficult is now they're like paying for installments, so it's only 75 a payment every two.

Speaker 1:

I'm like easy and all you see is that 75 right like yes, yes, except you forget about it.

Speaker 2:

And then the mortgage is due and it's like a 200 payment shit I forgot about it.

Speaker 1:

Shit. That's the problem. That's the problem with toruses is like when we become adults and we make our own money I mean, I guess that can be the problem with a lot of people, but us in particular, and we have the money. It's horrible, it's bad news, it's really difficult. I don't even know why we're like this is our show topic, because I feel like I don't have anything to say that's helpful. It's just I do this, do you do that?

Speaker 2:

And then I mean it is part of the cycle of just beating the absolute shit out of yourself and feeling so guilty about it and then just adding to the whole depression. Yeah, it's a coping mechanism. Honestly is what it is. It is, it's a coping mechanism. It's not healthy, but it is one.

Speaker 1:

I used to be an emotional eater. I feel like sometimes I still can be, and I know a lot of people can resonate with that, because it used to be like had a shit day, stuff your face and eat something, eat something, get fast food, whatever, had a good day, I'm going to celebrate. I'm going to go out to my favorite restaurant and get all this food, and that's something I'm going to celebrate. I'm going to go out to my favorite restaurant and get all this food, and that's something that I actually have been working on my whole life and I feel like I don't really do that anymore. But of course there's sometimes. I do because it is like an addiction in a way, because it's just a way, obviously, to cope, to make yourself feel better. And it's the exact same with shopping and I think, to my detriment probably, as I was healing from emotional eating, I was compensating by doing more and more emotional spending, swapping addictions for other addictions.

Speaker 1:

I remember shit when I I smoked cigarettes. For such a long time I've been, I quit cigarettes. It's been over a decade now, but quitting smoking was one of the hardest things I had to do. And when I quit smoking, the addiction I replaced it with was gaming. I got really into World of Warcraft and that literally took over my life. Gaming I got really into world of warcraft and that literally took over my life. This was in college, so yeah, we just like swap addictions out for other addictions a lot of the time because we don't know what to do it's that neurodivergent hyper fixation that really makes it difficult, because you just get that.

Speaker 2:

You get that pleasure in a way that like that I can't nothing really has given me before, and it's that excitement and yeah, as I'm saying that out loud, that's an addiction. Yeah, it makes me feel really good when I do it and then I feel that, yeah, that's an addiction. That's an addiction truly, truly it's not getting better and, I would think, as you get older. The problem is as you get older and you earn more and more money as you progress in your career.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so it's. You're already overspending. And then you get a raise and you're like, fuck, yeah, I can spend, can spend more. You're not like, great, I'm going to put this amount that I got a raise for in savings. No, it's never like that. If you do that, please email us at podcast at burnoutcollectivecom, and tell us your fucking secret. Thank you.

Speaker 2:

Not you, virgos. We don't want to hear from you because I know you people and you absolutely do do that. So like we get it. You're hear from you because I know you people and you absolutely do do that. So like we get it, you're better than us. It's no need. Just keep it to yourselves. Okay, virgos, god, and it's not. I mean, like seeing your friend, I think you have this, yeah, like she's a happy and I want to be a happy, like when I see you have something and that, oh, it's a fun thing.

Speaker 1:

I want a fun thing and it's just that, oh, it's a fun thing like I want a fun thing and it's just, I want to be happy too. It is FOMO. It is basically FOMO, and the funny thing is I feel like when we were younger it was. It felt different to me, because I feel like now, like with us, with you. If I see that you have something, I'm like, oh, my god, that's so cool, I want one. But I feel like when we were younger it was like oh, that's so cool, and like you're like jealous and like mad that they have the thing and you don't. I don't feel that way anymore. I'm just like, yeah, I'm gonna get that too, I guess. I guess when we were younger we felt that way because we didn't have the money to make it happen, so it was just like jealousy definitely like.

Speaker 2:

It's not FOMO, because it wasn't jealousy, it's just more like I too would like to partake, because I see it making you happy. There's not a jealous feeling, there's just a like ooh, me too, I think, also growing up with maybe not a whole lot of money, or when you had tight budgets. I think that contributes to it too, because, like now, you have, you know, you don't have Kmart clothes money, you have American Eagle money. Now, what is the most ridiculous purchase you have ever made? One that you regret, but then two that you absolutely do not regret.

Speaker 1:

Oh shit, one that I don't regret. It's a possibility that maybe I should regret it. No, I don't regret it. I've completely forgot about this. I went just on a whim. One day was like I had no money. I had a job, I just had started my career and so my job paid me nothing. Basically, I was living back with my parents because I had no money. And one day I was just like I should buy a new car. I was talking to my dad about it, which now I realize my dad's a tourist. It was when I was trying to move and I was like I've never purchased a new car before. I think my mom was like what? She's a Scorpio. But she was like what, why are you just gonna? That doesn't seem like a good idea. And I was like let's just go look. And my dad's like yeah, I'll go with you, let's just go look around, let's go look around.

Speaker 2:

It's the most dangerous fucking phrase in the entire.

Speaker 1:

English language. Hey, at least it was.

Speaker 2:

When we say it, though, and after you're done, I will explain why. But when we say it, we don't mean it.

Speaker 1:

That's true. But, yeah, we went to the dealership and then my dad and I were just both, yeah, I think we're gonna do this, I think I'm gonna do this today. My dad, when we left my dad's you are so impressive I'd never been to a car dealership in my fucking life I was like what was? I was maybe like 24 or something like that and I went in and they were like, yeah, there's this and this and this. And I was like I think it was already like discounted so much, but I still was like, can you throw that in? Then and I kept like bargaining with him and my dad's just sitting there like my dad's, not saying anything.

Speaker 1:

You know, like I actually thought my dad would step in because I was like, yeah, dad helped me I've never done this before but he didn't. So I was just like telling the guy like it is. And I was like, yeah, if you could include that. And I got like them to add on a free seven-year not warranty, but seven-year like package where all my oil changes were free for the first seven years of owning the car and everything else, most everything else, like the coating on the car. Like I was like, oh, so the car you're going to get doesn't have the coating that that one you were looking at does To fuck off the coating and I was like you fucking add that.

Speaker 1:

And he's like you got that car for so cheap. So not cheap, but it was very discounted and I literally drove, left my Taurus there and I drove home with a new car that day and my mom was seeing me pull in the driveway. She was like what is happening? I guess they did it. So that was probably the most ridiculous, but I actually do not regret it. I don't regret it.

Speaker 2:

I took Rob, I was like, hey, we're going to go to the jewelry store, we're just, we're just going to go look. Walked out with a fucking. When we say we're just going to go look, no, we're not, we have a plan and we're going to get it. Just when I was like, hey, we're're gonna go look at dogs, no, we're not, we're getting a dog, we just have to ease you into it, yeah it didn't take long to ease rob I was laughing at you, but then I also realized that I impulse bought a car you did

Speaker 2:

I did. I did it, tell us the story. I was working and we only had the one we have now. We had the Rav driving it back and forth and Rob was working from home, and so if there was an emergency he needed the car right, because Em was still little and if there's something wrong with her he wouldn't have a way. So I was just so worried about it that I found the car that I wanted. I went to the dealership. I said here's what I want, I'm willing to pay this much. And I went to the dealership. I said here's what I want, I'm willing to pay this much. And 15 minutes later I got it.

Speaker 1:

That's so funny that we actually talked about this and we're like we really should think about like crazy purchases we've made and we're both like I don't know and we're like we did impulse buy a car.

Speaker 2:

Lots of lots of regretful purchases, though.

Speaker 1:

What are some of your regrets?

Speaker 2:

I mean I have a closet full of regrets in there when I decided I was going to try watercolors or miniature house model making or fucking pick whatever thing you can do in there. There's thousands of dollars worth of unused bullshit in that closet. Because, guess what? It was hard and I didn't like it and I don't want to do it anymore. But I had, I had hyper fixated and bought everything you possibly need to do it and it was the good stuff too, not the cheap shitty paints, but the really we were just talking about that.

Speaker 2:

Fancy Japanese paints.

Speaker 1:

Because you have to have the best right. It's just us. Does anyone else feel like they have to have the best thing Right?

Speaker 2:

You have to do it all the way. You have to go all the way. Yeah, what is the thing called where you get high via someone else? It's weed and they blow it into your mouth. What is that called?

Speaker 2:

contact tie sure there's that. Yeah, I go shopping for other people. Oh, you're still shopping. It's not for you. Clearly it's a gift. You can't be accused of being selfish or wasting money, but I bought you this you know 21-year-old scotch as a gift because I love you and got the thrill of spending, however much, on this 21-year-old scotch. So, yeah, you get your fix. If you can't do it directly for you, you just do it for other people it directly for you.

Speaker 1:

You just do it for other people. I also get. I get like a high from surprising people with something that they're gonna be like so happy about, because I feel like that's very hard to do you almost did that today with you and I couldn't remember.

Speaker 2:

I was like, yeah, costco has our costco has lemon raspberry muffins. I knew you would love them and so I went to order them for you and I didn't have them. And I was so mad.

Speaker 1:

I was like oh, she's going to love these. I guess you have to come over and bake me some muffins or something, I guess so.

Speaker 2:

But it was just like yes, you get that contact high of doing a fun surprise.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh, my God, the best fun surprise I ever did is I surprised my mom for coming for Christmas. So I messaged my dad. I was like, listen, I want this to be a surprise. I know that can be hard, but can you do everything in your power to kind of like, make sure she's available during this time? So my dad picked me up from the airport and I think he had told my mom he was going to go buy ice cream at the store, which she's a tourist. So she was like, obviously, and it was like late at night though, and so he left and came back and he went to walk in and I FaceTimed my mom.

Speaker 1:

I'm like out in their driveway, and I FaceTimed her and she's like at the kitchen table. I'm like, hey, she literally puts the phone down so she can keep doing what she's doing. So she's like, oh, hey, she's like sorry, I'm like writing letters or whatever. I was like, oh, it's fine. So I walked in the door with my dad and I'm talking to her so my voice, you know like I'm right next to the room she's in and she still isn't like registering it, because I got closer, I was like in the room with her now I was like mom, what are you doing? And she like looks at the phone and then looks back at me and she like jumps out of her chair and she screams how are you here? She was like you were just how it's like to her and it was just like such a shock and it was so hilarious. And then I had a gift wrapped that was like the tickets to the nutcracker and I gave it to her. So that was my favorite one that's so sweet.

Speaker 2:

I'm so glad that your family considers you coming home a gift to them.

Speaker 1:

That's so nice wow, I didn't even think of.

Speaker 2:

Because I definitely don't think that would be similar for mine. Rob doesn't spend a whole lot, but then once in a while he'll just casually be like, oh yeah, I'm going to get a new guitar. Or oh yeah, I'm getting a new TV. But he's been researching it and saving his money and knows we can't afford it. It's just frustrating because I feel like we're doing the same thing, except we're not, because he's doing it responsibly and I'm doing it to make myself feel good.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and the house is a mess.

Speaker 1:

And I just, yeah, actually I'm gonna, can I? I want to read this part of our outline because it's funny to me. So we just have like bullet points of stuff we wanted to talk about and this one says buy it, don't use it, clutters your house. Buy more shit to help you organize, and then you just have a closet garage, spare office full of shit you don't use and don't need, and now you're a hoarder. Are you happy, fucking happy Now?

Speaker 2:

you're a hoarder. Now you're a hoarder. Honestly. I get this from my mother and I'm not throwing blame on her, but like this is this is it was emotional eating and emotional shopping. Have you noticed a difference in your spending since you've started therapy? Because you have, like, the tools to cope with? No, I I was giggling because I can't even see that straight face I'm like no, yeah, I mean I was.

Speaker 1:

I was working on my emotional eating and nipped that in the bud and now just an emotional spender yeah and and again.

Speaker 2:

I know we're the burnout collective and I think the underlying point of all of this is this is a way that we thought was going to help take us out of burnout, but I actually think is backsliding and contributes to it should we talk about the things we bought for the burnout collective?

Speaker 1:

no, should I. Should I talk about how, like the first week, we decided on this and we're gonna do this and we're just talking about it. I feel like it was the first week. It might have been the second week, but I was like I'm calling myself out here, I'm not gonna call you out, I'm calling myself out and I was like I think we need a business credit card you're like can I send you a copy?

Speaker 2:

I was like no, I do not want a copy.

Speaker 1:

I was like no, no, I trust you, I just want us to use it for, like, our business, because we were buying software and shit. And so I was like, let's do it, but I don't trust me.

Speaker 2:

I was like no, you cannot, I do not want that.

Speaker 1:

I did get a business credit card. She won't let me send her one. I thought about just doing it, but I didn't want to force that on her. Yeah, I got the credit card. It was a good deal. Oh, I do need to check if I spent the $6,000 needed to get the bonus, but that's fine. Really, can you seriously remind me to check on that after this?

Speaker 2:

Okay, I'll go first Headphones, one mic, second mic, because I didn't like the first mic. One light, a second light.

Speaker 1:

And you're not using the headphones. I want to point out.

Speaker 2:

And I'm not using the headphones because they hurt my ears, so I'm using my old ones. New light bulbs where you can adjust the color temperature, because there wasn't enough light in here and it's Washington, so it was too varied. A because there wasn't enough light in here and it's Washington, so it was too varied.

Speaker 1:

A chair, a little light, right there a little lamp, another lamp that.

Speaker 2:

I'm returning because I didn't like it.

Speaker 1:

I also want to buy that lamp and Rebecca told me I couldn't because I got laid off yes, you don't have lamp money right now.

Speaker 2:

Just gotta hold on. We just not yet. I feel like ariel, like I have gadgets and gizmos everywhere. A new a keyboard about a new a keyboard. Why did you buy a new keyboard? Because I wanted one that went clickety-clack Again, again. None of this is healthy. It's bad. It's so bad and I don't feel good about it. I don't None of this makes me feel good, but it makes me feel good when I'm healthy.

Speaker 1:

All right, that's the podcast. We're just going to not feel good about our emotional spending and time for a break. We'll be back and we'll just play a game, just kidding here's the fucking worst part.

Speaker 2:

I am prescribed actual fucking medication which could probably help a lot of this, but it's too much fucking effort to drive to the pharmacy to pick it up, so I'll just fucking shop online so it can come to me. That's the worst part.

Speaker 1:

That's the worst part is I could just go get my medicine, or I could make my own dopamine, I guess I think my problem with adhd and meds is like my actual adhd meds I can't get my house, I have to go pick them up and that's so like counter intuitive to me, because it's like I have ADHD and anxiety and MDD and it's not very easy to leave the house sometimes house sometimes depending, and so gotta go pick up your meds so that you can be stable and function.

Speaker 2:

You're so fucked if you live close by to an amazon fulfillment center oh god you can get it same day I can.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I can do that too, same day stuff I have to wait for overnight shipping yeah, that's another thing that's spoiled us. Oh yeah, I hate that. And also like I don't I really don't want to be buying so much on Amazon, but I guess I guess that's enough. Like, how do you quit Amazon like people that are doing a good job of not purchasing stuff from fucking Bezos?

Speaker 2:

How do you do it? My boss is sending me out to the actual office in December and the first fucking thing I thought of besides God, I hope I don't have so much diarrhea on this trip was now I get to go shopping for new clothes.

Speaker 1:

Going on a business trip, going on a thing, a trip for work, go buy a whole new wardrobe. You sent me that screenshot of like shit you bought and I was like I was like oh, cool. And then it was like winter coat, dress, dress. And I was like where are you going? I was like where are you?

Speaker 2:

to san francisco and I'm like I obviously need choices rebecca, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1:

We have brought you. We have brought you here today to talk to you about your problems.

Speaker 2:

Rob's in the other room. This is an intervention.

Speaker 1:

Rob just literally rolls in on the same chair, rolls in behind you.

Speaker 2:

I made Em write something she comes in with like I want to go to college one day, and when you buy two microphones it makes you choke. I'm never going to be to college one day, and when you buy two microphones it makes you choke Like I'm never going to be able to do that.

Speaker 1:

When you buy $900 worth of clothing from storage for a two-day work trip.

Speaker 2:

But I get to pay for it for installments, okay, so it's not really nine hundred dollars un-fucking-hinged.

Speaker 1:

This is like the worst topic for us to do. We can't help you. We are the problem. Hashtag girl math nine hundred dollars for two days of clothes. As.

Speaker 2:

As your friend, I'm never, ever going to be like helpful to you at all. It's just going to be a constant cycle of enabling and encouraging. Yeah that's.

Speaker 1:

Should we break up? No, no.

Speaker 2:

Because then no, no one's going to tell me about the thing that has pockets. That super soft jumpsuit from was it Zara? It was.

Speaker 1:

Bodhi B-O-D-H-I. Yeah, another purchase for girlies who would like to be comfortable at home and still look fucking hot and make your boobs look great. Bodhi jumpers B-O-D-H-I Not sponsored. Please sponsor us. Thank you. All right, so we have Uncrustables, okay, these?

Speaker 2:

are the sponsorships we're trying to get Uncrustables Ritz peanut butter crackers, muslim comforter, blankets, absolutely. Muslim comforter blankets.

Speaker 1:

Maybe Torrid? Yeah, for sure, torrid for the blankets.

Speaker 2:

Maybe Torrid? Yeah, for sure, torrid. Let's just name places. We want free things from Pfizer, yep, pfizer, merck, Johnson and Johnson. Oh, reddit, also sponsored, because I will Google the brand first or like just Reddit after it, and Reddit is like full of people being like Google the brand first or like just read it after it and read it is like full of people being like just don't, just don't do it that has been helpful.

Speaker 1:

Reddit's the only place I truly trust for like real, honest feedback, like when I'm looking, because I do, I look up reviews for everything. I guess not everything, but if it's I'm buying a robot vacuum, I'm buying a robot vacuum. I'm buying a new gaming chair, I'm buying a microphone, I'm I literally go. My parents have a consumer reports account that they pay for for some reason, but I'm always like I use this all the time. So, thank you, I go on consumer reports, I look at Amazon reviews, I look at product reviews, I look at random blogs that this mommy blogger wrote about her robot vacuum and Reddit. So much Reddit.

Speaker 2:

Reddit is.

Speaker 1:

And then you go down the rabbit hole and you're like this is the best. And then you read like a couple reviews that are like mine broke after a day.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so here's the thing you have to be able to sniff out the really stupid people who like it didn't. You didn't even use it right it arrived snagged, it's okay.

Speaker 1:

It got snagged in shipping. If you don't want it snagged, tell them to send you another one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah didn't, didn't use it use it right.

Speaker 1:

We're like gatekeeping how you're allowed to review things.

Speaker 2:

It's only because I really want to buy it, and so I just find a way to be like not valid, and I always act surprised when it doesn't work the way that they said it would. I think of a couple of things that friends have bought and judge them harshly for. Yeah, I can too, for sure.

Speaker 1:

I'd judge them harshly for it. Yeah, I can too, for sure. But we don't really judge our friends.

Speaker 2:

We absolutely do.

Speaker 1:

Shut up, Rebecca. This is a safe space.

Speaker 2:

My sister bought her shitty ex-boyfriend a brand new PlayStation and then he broke up with her and she didn't repo that thing and I begged her to repo it. I begged her repo it, I would have, I would have to. I begged and begged her to repo it and she wouldn't.

Speaker 1:

So buying for people buying, buying holiday decorations. Let's be real. I'm usually too depressed to decorate for how that for the holidays, and yet I'm like I need this decoration. This will be great. What did I buy? Oh, that one year? See, that was during covid. What. What brand is that?

Speaker 2:

balsam, balsam, hill balsam, oh my fucking god balsam balsam hill.

Speaker 1:

They're christmas trees dude. That felt like the most adult thing I'd ever purchased in my life.

Speaker 2:

I blame your mother for this one.

Speaker 1:

It is my mom's fault. Oh, it's totally my mom's fault, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because she told you about them. You told me about them. You were influenced to buy a tree that does light shows.

Speaker 1:

I mean it's fucking awesome. And it's even better now that I have a niece and nephew, especially because my sibling and sister-in-law don't really decorate too much. They definitely don't have a tree, and so that's always like. A cool thing is like they can come here for Christmas and have a lot of decorations, except last year because depression hole. So I'm hoping to dig myself out and be able to do it this year and hopefully not decide that I have to buy a bunch of new decorations when I have boxes of decorations already.

Speaker 2:

Here's one more thing, and this is probably going to be super alienating. A friend of mine spent $10,000 on a credit card on a trip to disneyland. Ten thousand dollars, thousand dollars to disneyland and they were there for, I think, two weeks, or almost two weeks, at disneyland, I mean they needed a vacation not to disneyland for ten thousand dollars, absolutely no, thank you, no, no. And she bought a sign that said like something like live laugh disney, live laugh disney I feel like I could do two days at disney do you know where you would go for ten thousand dollars?

Speaker 2:

not disneyland, is the answer probably hawaii. Anywhere else but disneyland?

Speaker 1:

iceland, jesus, disneyland. So rakuten, get the app r-a-k-u-t-e-n. Just anytime you're gonna shop somewhere, put it in, like amazon's not on there, but you know macy's best, buy game stop.

Speaker 1:

Even some places that like aren't jane's old navy like any clothing place almost every day, like each store gives you a certain percent cash back and then every quarter you're sent like a check for the cash back you earned that quarter. The only catch is you have to do it in the Rakuten app, and my friend told me my friend, Ruth, told me about this forever ago. I got my Litter Robot. I just got that Litter Robot and I found where it was on sale the cheapest, which was PetSmart. And then Rakuten had 6% cash back at PetSmart and then Chase. If you look in your Chase, like checking or credit cards and other banks maybe do this they do cash back purchases Like it'll be like 5% cash back on Jersey Mike's. You just have to accept it, turn it on, I guess. So in all I ended up getting 40% off or something 30 40% off what's the highest check you've ever gotten?

Speaker 1:

I feel like it might have been like 300, but I think it was like 200, which was high, I think the one I just got because I haven't been I want to say I haven't been shopping a lot, but I don't know I think it was just like $52.

Speaker 2:

See and this is how my brain works. I'm like, oh, free money.

Speaker 1:

This was completely unhinged. We appreciate you. Thank you for listening to us babble. Thank you for laughing with us. Yeah, take care of yourself and we'll see you next week.

Speaker 2:

Bye guys.

Speaker 1:

See ya. The Burnout Collective is hosted by me, jamie Young and me.

Speaker 2:

Rebecca McCracken. You can find all our episodes plus show notes at burnoutcollectivecom.

Speaker 1:

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